I would suggest that if you get one to take out it a few times on a couple calm mornings to get the feel for it. Have fun on your trip this year with your friend! Last Autumn did just that, and it totally sucked, not to mention gave me aches and pains. One last tip on sitting comfortably in the seat. Great little craft flat bottom hull. You can find them online at various sources, such as Austin Kayak for around $30 bucks. Required fields are marked *. Doing so dropped the back of the seat down half an inch and made the front and back level. COCKPIT. I have paddled between 12ft thru 16ft solo. WTB Old Town Discovery 119/Guide/Pack WTB Old Town Discovery 119/Guide/Pack. The color… I’ll live with it. Yes, it most certainly did. Mine has been down multiple rivers including the New River. Required fields are marked *. it fixed that issue for me. Brice. Also, if you talk to any outfitter in the Superior/Quetico region they complain about how renters abuse their Kevlar canoes because they bump over rocks and beaver damns with them, how they paddle them up into shore and don’t do ‘wet’ landings. When sitting in a kayak style seat you have a back rest and will want a life-jacket with no padding on the lower back of the jacket. Cutting the ash for the seat frame. Old Town 119 Canoe Seat. The seat was not level front edge to back edge. I’ve greatly appreciated the threads I’ve found to help me decide how to modify mine. The standard seat that comes on the Old Town Guide 119. Lightweight and durable. As far as the Old Town Guide 119, it is a great solo canoe with excellent stability. Your email address will not be published. Another easy fix. While. WEIGHT. The OT Pack is a highly sought after canoe among solo trippers. It now stays with the canoe dedicated just to being used for ballast. The seat issue I can fix with a couple small spacers added to the back seat… If going together but in solo canoes, they will also have some recommendations as well. Again, an easy fix. Let me tell ya, I’m not a little guy. All were used for very rough service, while some were even chewed and beaten on by brown bears. My specific likes I have for the Old Town Guide 119: I’ve only had my new canoe for a short while now. Agile, stable and easy to handle, it's even well-suited for a double-bladed paddle. It took me a while to make up my mind on getting a new canoe, but once I had my sights set on the Old Town Guide 119 I plowed ahead and purchased one. Being honest the most unstable part of using this canoe, and most any canoe, is when you are getting in and out of it. Your email address will not be published. What about secondary stability? Luckily all three of those issues were minor and easy to overcome. He wanted to get a canoe but I reckon he’s pretty new with this activity and even though I know he will find his way. It’s specially made for Dicks Sporting Goods. As I write this post I am down to 260. Okay, so this issue was not the fault of my Old Town Guide 119. Usually that is what I do too. It needs to be able to handle those types of water environments. Most people who try and use this canoe with a single bladed paddle have problems; the Guide 119 will turn quickly with just a sweep or two. And thanks to our construction process, it's tough without being too heavy. Doing a J-stroke can help track you straight but it’s not easy to do in a canoe that you sit low in, and if you could make it work you would find yourself going pretty slow in this canoe. However, coming along your site and reading about this review made me a bit more comfortable that there is something there which I also can use as a newbie. What I’m getting it as that I’m tall and have weight up top… not a good thing for canoe paddling… usually. Your email address will not be published. My two cents. Yes, it is a good solo canoe for somebody who is getting into canoeing. Comfortable seat with backrest. Works pretty good as long as I cut it in a single run. This is actually a common issue with people paddling solo canoes with a double bladed paddle. The new Solo Sportsman 119 is a sweet looking ride! If you are canoe tripping with a couple buddies and they are in a tandem canoe you can count on them being faster. The entire time I didn’t feel like my ass was angling forward in my Old Town Guide 119. I have had many OT Pack canoes, all in kevlar, that were used in the wilds of Alaska and were used ‘very’ hard for 8 years. 2. Let the Discovery 119 help you explore new territory. I love my Guide 119 though. It doesn’t have a portage yoke. If you’re looking to buy one of these canoes be sure to check them out online. But I also have my experiences and know what I prefer which is why I bought the Old Town Guide 119 – I live in the upper midwest in canoe-country. Shows typical signs of use, mainly some paint chipping on the metal brackets (around the bolt holes and from clipping things to it). While the canoe only weighs around 48 pounds, it didn’t come with a portaging yoke, … It can feel a little ‘iffy’ during that transition. Absolutely no issues. It doesn’t matter if you have the Guide 119 or the Discovery 119, the position where you place your quick-detach adjustable yoke is tricky. I’ve noticed that my usual life-jacket, because it has lower back padding/flotation, pushes up on me when sitting in my canoe. I have an old aluminum 17 footer that just sits and never gets used. My Story: A number of years back, I purchased a blemished Old Town Canoe Discovery 119k from a local canoe and kayak shop for $600. It has to do with the canoe width, the physicality of the paddler, and the paddle being used. The Old Town Guide 119 is a great little canoe for the solo paddler… Not sure if it comes in blue. Very convenient to just fill it up with whatever water you’re floating in. Is that going to be a problem? -Lowering the seat with a longer bolt and spacer gives you a … That’s right, not all life-jackets are created equal. For example, the Discovery 119 canoe by Old Town has an MSRP of $699.99, and is a lightweight canoe, that is also marketed as being a great choice for a double-bladed paddle. The seat requires no maintenance and will serve you comfortably for many, many years. Thank you for this review. This legendary company still makes these in Maine. Don’t get me wrong – I love Kevlar canoes. Yep they certainly can be. After a little research online it sounded like people with similar issues like I was having bought longer paddles which fixed their problem. That’s right, Dick’s Sporting Goods is the only place you can buy a Guide 119 for new – either online or from direct point of sales at one of their retails stores. Have been looking for a new canoe myself and also picked up the points you raised with regard the seat, wasn’t aware it would be that simple to fix. All things are relative. T-formex is a newer material that seems to be on track as a replacement for Ryloex. Guide 119 I’m assuming you’re talking about the Guide 119, which is available in some of the big box stores like Dick’s, and not the Discovery 119. I ordered mine online and had it shipped to my house. You can get the foot braces for either the Discovery 119 or the Guide 119. Thank you for this great review on Old Town 119 canoe. Can this canoe be used by inexperienced canoeist? This thread is dedicated to documenting my Old Town Guide 119 canoe modifications. But I also have my experiences and know what I prefer which is why I bought the Old Town Guide 119 – I live in the upper midwest in canoe-country. If you are, then the odds are that the outfitter will have some very good input on what canoe would be best for you and your friend. I have used a regular canoe paddle in my Old Town Guide 119 from time to time. But after reading over a hundred reviews from other paddlers and test paddling one for myself, I knew the Old Town Guide 119 was for me. I believe the hull is the same, but the seat in the Guide is a molded in seat, while the seat in the Disco 119 is the webbed bench seat. This was an easy fix. Not a big deal on hot summer days, but very annoying on cool spring or fall days. The extra paddle length worked. Canoes come in a few shapes and sizes. But once I am sitting down all feels fine. Secondary stability is just fine, but feels a little off when using a single bladed paddle in this canoe because I sit lower in it than other canoes I have used. If you like a low maintenance canoe then replacing your existing seats with a blow-molded polyethylene seat is the way to go. WEIGHT CAPACITY Not the canoe’s fault, but I kept getting lots of paddle drips on me and inside the canoe when using a double bladed kayak paddle. Posted on January 17, 2014 by natrevga. Wise Economy Low Back Seat. -- Last Updated: Aug-26-14 11:29 AM EST -- Now that I have a foot brace in my Guide 119 I want to replace the seat. 2) I am thinking 3 inches below bottom of gunnel. Furthermore if you go on any canoe manufacturer site where they detail the canoe compositions they sell, the poly/fiberglass variants are always described as being able to take more abuse and having stronger durability over their light weight Kevlar canoes. ... Other than that it was as good as the 119, but to make it so you had to tear that seat out and replace it with a bench seat. I replaced with web seat that I prefer. Like the others in the series, this solo canoe is agile, stable and easy to handle. This seat can accommodate seat bolt spacing of about 8 to 9 inches (measured front to rear, center to center). Just a quick question, is Old Town 119 also a suitable canoe for someone, like me, who never have used a canoe before? All customers get FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by Amazon ... Old Town Sportsman BigWater PDL 132 Pedal Fishing Kayak (Marsh Camo) $2,599.99 $ 2,599. This causes more weight to be towards the aft end of the canoe, which will raise the front end of the canoe up when using the yoke. Blog › Forums › Fly Fishing › Old Town Guide/Discovery 119 versus Pack 12 This topic has 2 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated Apr 15, 2014 at 9:34 am by Zach Matthews . I had been looking at a bunch of other canoes, canoes that were much more expensive. I have two oars both brand new also. The trade off is the poly is heavier to portage, but it also cost a lot less. It took about eight minutes to add the spacers. Free Shipping by Amazon. 1-16 of 68 results for "old town canoe seat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. After making the modification I mentioned above to drop down the back edge of the seat, there is one more thing you can do to make it more comfy: Buy the correct life-jacket! The OT Pack canoe you mentioned were sweet little canoes. Discover new territory with the compact and fun Old Town Discovery 119 solo canoe. It is cost friendly, which is nice, but it is also a stable platform and easy to handle/maneuver. Yes and no. Take it from the words of experience. I ordered a new cane seat from Harmony and replaced the angler seat. I have looked at a few, but haven’t done much research into it. Right now I use a Saranac 146 which is a fine boat for the family, but a bit too heavy for soloing. To be honest I was not overly fond of it either. I wouldn’t want to carry this canoe, or any canoe for that matter, over a couple hundred yards or more of land between lakes without a yoke. While mostlycomfortable, I couldn’t help but feel like I was angling slightly forward when sitting. THESE SEATS DO NOT FIT ALL OLD TOWN MODELS. $699 for an Old Town Guide 119 that weighs 45lbs that I can drag over rocks, drag up on shore with all my gear in it, and drag over beaver damns without a second thought about it. I am going to put a "real canoe seat" in. Original seat out of 119 canoe. However, I am also going to use my Old Town Guide 119 on canoe trips into the wilderness, like the BWCA and Quetico, and that means portaging. Less so with their canoes made of poly because they can take more abuse and be used over multiple seasons. I heartily agree with your comment about having a little weight up front. Easy fix! So to sum it up – Initial stability is fine but takes a little getting used to getting in and out of the canoe. It took me a while to make up my mind on getting a new canoe, but once I had my sights set on the Old Town Guide 119 I plowed ahead and purchased one. The seat I made is right at 3lbs. Is it slow to paddle? So without further ado let’s jump into the specifics on my new canoe and why I decided on the Guide 119. (Check out my review of the Guide 119 versus a Swift Adirondack Pack 12. $200.00 shipping. Last August in 2018 I broke down and bought an Old Town Guide 119. Relate Video Chicken Coop Old Town Guide 119 Seat Modification They used to be made out of a material called Ryolex, which I am sure you are familiar with and know is no longer available. Easy to customized, stable on the water. I’m glad I got it. It wasn’t bad, but it felt awkward to me using a single bladed paddle, and that in turn made me feel less stable in this canoe. Most people I talk to seem to be most curious about how stable this smaller canoe really is. 99. Most people probably buy this canoe with the intent of unloading it at a boat landing or perhaps within a few yards of a body of water. 1. Hahaha, yeah, I hear ya. I’ve got to convince my wife to let me turn our yard into a boatyard! That’s it! My main problem with these types of models is my size in relation to the seat – I’m tall and sometimes I just can’t find a comfortable paddling position. I gotta disagree with your statement concerning kevlar vs. poly. If you’re just getting started, this little trick might make the difference in how comfortable you feel. I adjusted that in my Old Town Guide 119 by adding a nylon spacer to the back seat posts that dropped the back down half an inch. Length: 11’9″ (that’s where they get the 119 from in the name), Weight: 49lbs (not the lightest solo canoe out there), Material/Hull Composition: 3 layer polyethylene (very durable and why it weighs 49lbs), Warranty: Manufacturer’s lifetime hull and deck warranty from original owner, Country of manufacture: United States Of America, The hull is heavy duty and can take A lot abuse than Kevlar, The weight is easily manageable and I can load it on my SUV by myself, Great for solo paddling and tripping on small to medium sized lakes and rivers like the, With care it can be taken onto larger bodies of water, but plan accordingly, It paddles great with a double bladed canoe paddle and tracks well this way, Good stability, great for fishing and taking photos. It is a solid little solo canoe for sure. The only thing I might change is the seat, hence four stars instead of 5. My question is do you think that foot supports (braces) can be added similar to the ones that come standard on the discovery 119? I really like the Old Town Guide 119. It’s actually very comfortable. I looked at a many different makes and models, all way more expensive than the Old Town Guide 119. I prefer bright colours but at least I have a good review I can bench mark some other models against. Compact and fun to paddle, the Discovery 119 has been a long time favorite. I was going to try to leave the seat up high, but will it make it to tippy. Longer and more narrow canoes are going to be faster when you paddle them. I plan to share more information about my Old Town Guide 119 as I get out there and use it. There were a few little things that bugged me about it, nothing major, just minor little issues. Handles great! But for the type of canoe camping I like to do it seemed like a good fit. Cane seats can be cut down to fit in classic or current Old Town models. I went to the local hardware store and purchased a couple half-inch nylon spacers and longer bolts. I’m taking it easy and moving along at a comfortable pace. I look forward to checking out your other articles and reviews to help me make a decision. I also have shoulder issues, so I cannot use a kayak paddle; I have to use a single bladed paddle. But worth mentioning. Dick’s Sporting Goods is the only place that sells them and they have sales on the Old Town Guide 119 often… you can get them for even less than I paid! Old Town One Person Canoe - Kayak Guide 119 This Canoe is brand new and was only tested and then stored indoors. Getting ready for several nights in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness. The Old Town Guide 119 is going to make this a great canoe season! A couple days ago I took my canoe out for a few hours and noticed immediately that the seat modification worked. 17.25 in / 43.8 cm. In buying any canoe you should purchase based on your needs. Thanks for this. Anyone familiar with kevlar knows it outlasts and outperforms poly in a canoe application. I guess Old Town used to make them in red and Green as well, but I have not seen any of those around for a while. It’s a great solo craft and suitable for a wide variety of uses. https://paddling.com/gear/old-town-canoe-kayak-guide-119-canoe LENGTH. 56 lbs / 25.4 kg. When I got home I simply adding the spacers and replaced using longer bolts, one to each side of the seat’s rear mounting bracket. I was actually thinking of getting some and installing them last year, but decided I would wait a bit and get in some paddles this spring before deciding either way. I was also looking into purchasing the Old Town Guide 119 about six months ago, but I really couldn’t find enough solid information on it so I left it for the time being – glad to have found your review. And I did the same thing – used a collapsible 5 gallon water container. If you treat your poly canoe just the same as you do a Kevlar canoe it is going to last for as long as you live. I’m a big guy, 6’3″, 280ish. I place the yoke just slightly in front of where the seat is. How is initial stability? While I do find that the Old Town Guide 119 has a comfortable seat, it does feel like the front edge sloped down a little too much. I’m a bigger guy and have no issues. However, I did try and use a traditional canoe paddle and found it to not be so comfortable feeling. Hey, thanks for sharing this article!I’m not necessarily a canoe fan, but my dad is slowly getting into it. It seems many of the popular solo Kevlar canoes out there are narrow and between fourteen and sixteen feet long. Thanks for the nice comment. I to lowered the stock seat heights. After 100+ years of designing the most forward-thinking watercrafts, Old Town has developed the most comfortable kayak seating in the industry. I have paddle the OT discovery 119k, the Guide 119, Disco 119, Field & Stream 119. Old Town Canoes does not make a yoke specifically for the Old Town Guide 119 or the Discovery 119. The seat was not level front edge to back edge. I’ve had my canoe in the water half a dozen times since buying it, twice to the Boundary Waters. Buying a $30 ash wood yoke and installing it myself is also rather minor. While I find the seat comfortable, the front edge does seem to be lower than the back. The Guide 119 is a custom version of the Discovery 119 that is made, in the camouflage color pattern available in the Guide series, exclusively for Dick’s Sporting Goods. See the image below: You can see that the lower back area is mesh, and does not have any flotation bulk… this jacket is designed to be worn for kayaking comfort or with seats that have lower back rests. Feb 26, 2015 - Shop a wide selection of Old Town Guide 119 Canoe at DICK’S Sporting Goods and order online for the finest quality products from the top brands you trust. When I was out a couple days for a paddle I had no drips inside my canoe. It definitely helped me. PLEASE CONTACT CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-343-1555 FOR ASSISTANCE. If you are going on a canoe trip there is a good chance you will be going through an outfitter… maybe.
It looks nice enough, but I would have liked to have had a red one! The seat in the 119 is placed about in the right spot, so it's good to go from the store. The ash is from a local lumber mill, and I rip it (for paddles and stuff) with an added circular saw rip fence. Its open hull makes it a total utility craft and lighter than a NEXT or many yaks. I am so new to all this but have agreed to a friend to go with them, finally, this year on a canoe trip. 13 or 18 inch wide standard seat, contoured seat, or cane bucket seat? Several months ago I was 325+ pounds. Let me know if you have any questions about the Old Town Guide 119. Old town guide 119 seat mod I was thinking about taking the factory seat out and moving my seat forward and put back of the seat in the factory front hole and drill new one for the front. The OT Pack model were 12 footers and weighed 29 pounds stripped. I take good care of my possessions… but, I plan to use this new canoe on many river and lakes that have underwater rocks and stumps. The problem many people have is they try to place the yoke in a position that will evenly balance the canoe when using the yoke. Same boat different seats and color. But when I go out on larger bodies of water I have some weight up front 95% of the time. Because of the position of the seats in these canoes the yoke would be best placed almost across where the seats are mounted. Old Town Seats have varied over the years. The canoe I have now is getting a little rough around the edges, so this spring I am thinking about replacing it. On small lakes or streams I don’t bother too much with that anymore. Yes, before I go on my next major wilderness cane trip in my Old Town Guide 119, I will be purchasing a new life jacket to increase my paddling comfort. I’m pleased with how comfortable I feel in this canoe! It was about the double bladed paddle I was using; it was too short. I had been looking pretty hard at a few different solo canoes from various manufactures, but on a gut hunch I went with the Guide 119. Or a $3000+ Swift pack canoe that weighs 30lbs but should be used only for wet landings, should be lifted over obstructions like beaver damns, lifted onto shore after all gear is removed..etc… For the fifteen or more pounds of weight I have to portage and saving $2400 dollars, I am personally happy with my Old Town Guide 119. With all that out in the open I have to admit I was surprised at how stable I felt in the Old Town Guide 119. It’s an easy fix I can do myself but I just need to get around to doing it. The paddle I initially purchased when I bought my Guide 119 was 250cm in length, which is a common length for a double bladed paddle. This is a common complaint I have seen online in other Old Town Guide 119 reviews. It will track just fine that way. When using a two bladed kayak paddle in the Old Town Guide 119 I didn’t have any issues with stability when underway. The Discovery/ Guide 119 is a fantastic canoe.
-- Last Updated: Aug-26-14 11:29 AM EST -- Now that I have a foot brace in my Guide 119 I want to replace the seat. That means it’s likely to turn easily and be almost too responsive when paddling… paddling with a traditional single bladed paddle. They don’t complain about how renters use their poly canoes because they can take the same punishment without the negative affects – and cost much less. I would have liked to have had a lighter canoe, who wouldn’t!? In the grand scheme of things, what I don’t like about the Old Town Guide 119 are pretty minor! When the OT Packs pop up for sale on places like Ebay or Craig’s List they sell fast. I totally agree on the camo color of the Old Town Guide 119. The color… It only comes in a camo pattern. Beautiful finish. You can learn more and buy one here: Dicks Sporting Goods. I’m a bigger guy too, six foot one inches tall, and I have not had any issues with this canoe in regards to being comfortable. 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